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In Season 4, the Oceanic Six left the island. Ben turned the wheel and it seemed to disappear. It didn't physically travel through time, it simply did not exist anymore because events in the past have changed without the 6 being there. If they had not left, they would have been incorporated into the mural of time painted by the events they would cause or influence. Maybe John finds out that if they aren't brought back, the Island will not exist for a catastrophic event in the future. The 6 are influencing the outside world's future instead of the island's past. We are witnessing the paradox unfolding, and Ben is the puppet master. They need to go back to prevent the space time continuum from collapsing. Perhaps the island is skipping because it needs its constant.

Ben and Widmore are working against each other. Ben wants to move through time with the 6 so that they can save the island and he will become the leader, instead of Widmore. It was originally Locke that was supposed to turn the wheel and get back the 6 so their destinies could be fulfilled and the events would occur down the correct path. Perhaps the Swan was built to release radiation/electromagnetism from the Hydrogen bomb they buried. Widmore sent Farraday to correct past mistakes, since he was an other at one point. Widmore was probably sent off the island by turning the wheel. He also sent Desmond to push the button so that the world would not end. He's trying to fix the past. Ben is attempting to undo all his progress.

Time on the island is now occurring all at once because people of different times are interacting and crossing paths. Desmond has become a inter-time line microphone. He's unhinged and can receive messages in the form of recollection. This is how Charolette suddenly remembers Daniel as an old man from her past. The memories that are altered are forced into her head, causing a nose bleed. Which is why people die after being unhinged. The update of memory from their interaction with their own past causes a cerebral hemorrhage. They can not survive the change in time. In order to save the world, the 6 must go back and fulfill the given tasks with only Locke, and not Ben.

Any LOST fans on NG? Let me know what you think.

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Feb. 15, 2009 | 6:57 PM Oney says:

lost has me lost. wtf is going on

Feb. 15, 2009 | 6:58 PM thekk2008 says:

I loves lost but i wonder if all of them get to the island

What happens if 1 dies?

Feb. 15, 2009 | 7:05 PM Fierras says:

There are some other movies where time travel decays the brain. So the more they travel the closer they are of dying if they make a next jump.

Feb. 15, 2009 | 7:12 PM TheBoogley says:

The HATCH!! :O

Feb. 15, 2009 | 7:23 PM Dylawrence says:

Personally... I can't wait for John to finally die!

I'm getting sick of his "This is our purpose" Bullshit!

Once I get done w/ all my collabs I'm making a parody of Lost!

Feb. 15, 2009 | 7:23 PM fatboy199259 says:

I love LOST

Feb. 15, 2009 | 7:24 PM MichaelHurst says:

First couple seasons of lost = Awesome.
Newer seasons = Not so much.

Feb. 15, 2009 | 7:25 PM MrScriblam says:

i LOST interest

Feb. 15, 2009 | 8:44 PM Josh-B says:

I'm LOST in translation.

Feb. 15, 2009 | 10:07 PM RubberNinja says:

I'm LOST. Wasn't this show just about a plane crashing on a island with a polar bear.

Feb. 15, 2009 | 10:45 PM knugen says:

Ever since they decided to throw time travel into the mix I have been pretty much LOST :/

(C-c-combo keeper!)

Feb. 15, 2009 | 11:21 PM FrozenFire says:

I watch the show LOST.
if I don't feel like changing the channel from G4.

Feb. 15, 2009 | 11:50 PM DarkLeviathan says:

LOST, on another note, considering that the authors of the show have no set script until the day of shooting I don't think they could weave a story like that. I'm guessing they will pull a few things out of seasons 1-3 and intertwine that, rather then using later episodes because they simply haven't been written yet.

Feb. 16, 2009 | 1:44 AM LuciousClump says:

Hell yah I'm a Lost fan
It's been going great for a couple of seasons I can't wait for the answers.
I'm also starting to be a heroes fan again since they got the main guy from season 1 back I know a lot of people hate on it , but heroes and lost are the best shows for me right now.
Now back to subject.
Good theory
Just a question would richard not count as a constant???
I mean he's almost always there??

Plus the people who were there before the others the ones who built the temple. (You can tell the others didn't build it cause they have no idea how to stop the guardian/smoke monster)

Well that's all i got for now I'm sleepy

Feb. 16, 2009 | 5:55 AM trashcanman says:

it stopped being interesting in the middle of season 2

haven't watched since, should I?

Feb. 16, 2009 | 7:54 AM Napalm777 says:

Holy crap...... your a genius!

Feb. 16, 2009 | 8:36 AM lenkobiscuit says:

stopped watching at ep 4 once i realised they were going to drag it out and milk it for all it was worth

sawyer was cool though

Feb. 16, 2009 | 3:27 PM Quarl says:

Well, if you like lost, you'll love this parody thing... http://www.oldeenglish.org/podcast/wr iters-of-lost

Feb. 16, 2009 | 3:53 PM TomFulp says:

Those are some good theories. Thoughts on Jack's dad?

Feb. 16, 2009 | 4:17 PM piratey says:

Maybe he's Jacob?

Feb. 16, 2009 | 7:53 PM vago187 says:

I don't think Ben is pulling any srings, if anything he's another puppet.
As far as the Oceanic 6, they shouldn't have left the island (why?) The only thing I know is that their going to come back, but what I'm sure of is that the only one that should have left the island in the first place was John Locke.
have a few Qs
What aren't they freaking out about Walt? the spent the first two seasons talking about how "special" he was, shouldn't he come back too?
Does the Smoke monster have a specif trail? why in the pilot it looked like it was way clooser to the beach.
WHY DID CHARLIE HAD TO DIEEEEE!!!! Honestly w/o Charlie the show has gotten tooooo serious and its way too easy to pick up Mathew Fox's bad acting.
egh way to go a kill the comic relief! Hurley isn't the comic relief! he's just Hurley.

Feb. 17, 2009 | 1:46 AM Snappler says:

Ohhh yes lost fan big time. but gotta say i have some problems with your theory. first of all, the island is just skipping through time, thats already been explained by the all-knowing farraday. so that kinda opposes your theory about the island no longer existing and such, and most of your theory following from that. plus, sawyer saw kate helping claire give birth to aaron, so thats proof that the oceanic 6 are still present in the past (if that makes any logical sense) and havent been taken out of the island's timeline like you suggest.

i do like your idea that widmore was sent off the island by turning the wheel. didnt someone say at one point that widmore cant go to the island? but based on what happened when ben turned the wheel, that seems like it would have other implications for what would follow that dont seem to fit in with the story we know. but then again, i get the feeling ben did something strange when he turned the wheel, considering it disconnected the island from the normal progress of time, and because hes just a manipulative bastard like that.

in general, i think ben is essentially what weve come to know him as in the past: a selfish manipulator with an incredible ability to make people do his bidding without them quite realizing it. this makes me think that the whole deal of trying to get the 6 back to the island might not actually be in the best interest of the 6 somehow. the one thing that makes me less sure about this is that richard feels the same way, and richard is pretty much the chief good guy in my book.

ben and widmore are for sure working against each other. the confrontation in widmore's bedroom at the end of last season should be proof of that. but i think theyre two powerful men (each in their own way) both looking out for themselves at the cost of whoevers in their way. (widmore sent the freighter to cover his ass and kill the losties, and ben... what hasnt he done? i think the next episode will show just how much damage hes going to cause to the losties with this grand scheme of his.)

good to find another lost fan who actually bothers trying to figure all this shit out. for the record, i was super skeptical of the time traveling storyline (ok i hated it) when it first began with desmond, but by the second episode (where desmond barely escapes having his brain skewered through time with pennys help) i was in love with it. it is a bit scifi, but the crazy shit theyre doing with it just does it for me.

feel free to pm me if you want to debate this stuff some more.

Feb. 17, 2009 | 4:10 AM mr-spad says:

it's all a dream that has patrick duffy in the shower.

this is simple time paradox thats been running around Star Trek for years A makes B that Makes C that leaves the world okay for A. you didn't mention season one and the bunker with the bomb not being needed to be reset anymore, because thats the plot hole thats going to throw alot of people near the end.

go for Dr. Who or Star Treck if your more concered about tempral matters.

Feb. 17, 2009 | 1:58 PM OdHero says:

I liked your theory on Widmore. If Widmore is trying to fix the past that could explain why he is so ruthless, because it can all be fixed whe hes done.

Feb. 27, 2009 | 6:15 PM Chaps24 says:

I think you have the just of it concerning the nose bleeds. I love the way they've been able to blend fringe science within a greater mythology. In many ways, they're setting up Locke and Jack as a messiah of dualities, and have manipulated so many of human history's mythological explanations into a beautiful story. Locke's reincarnation fits a la Jesus, but is explainable in that the time shifting could pull him back to a time where he was alive.

I especially admire the way the writers were able to pull in such a large audience of people who generally have little interest in myth, or science fiction, and got them hooked before they knew what was happening. Haha just looking at a couple of the comments people have left on your page proves it. If you ever want to talk a couple of Lost theories, holla at me, cause most of my friends that watch it have noooooooo idea what's going on.

P.S. A couple tips to those who wish to better understand where Lost is going.

1. Check out some of the writings and theories of the scientists and philosophers Lost pays homage to... Stephen Hawking, Jeremy Bentham, Faraday, etc... there are tonnes.

2. Look up some of the myths, or mythological characters that Lost relates to. For instance, Desmond Hume (one of my favourite characters) is strongly based upon Odysseus the Greek Hero of the Illiad and Odyssey. Many of the original flight survivors have also taken upon characteristics of Jesus' disciples... Sayid, Jack, etc.

3. Lastly check out some prophecy from some of the myths (aka religions) still prominant today, hold on to. Apocalyptic prophecy from Christianity and Islam for sure.

Oh and remember, looking at that stuff won`t tell you what WILL happen on Lost, but knowing the influences of the writers and creators certainly helps.

LOL I really wish I could get a job writing.

Mar. 3, 2009 | 5:54 PM ViNcEnTxX says:

Yeah I agree with Oney. When ever I watch the show I really have no fucking clue what's going on. Anyway it's not that I'm stupid, I'm actually pretty smart it's just that I always zone out on the episode for like 30 minutes then start getting in to it and then just zone again.

Mar. 7, 2009 | 10:35 PM AngelProdigy says:

lolwut?

Mar. 9, 2009 | 11:52 PM dnatoxic says:

Whoah! That was the perfect explanation we will just have to wait and see I can't wait to figure out why ben killed jhon.
Well they got stuck in the damn dharma age and I'm getting tired of the damn cliffhangers but its the only way to pull the fans in and keep peoples eyes locked.

Remember guys every wednsday !!!!